I'm less worried about the world ending (scientists confirmed they believe they are possibly 100 plus years off on the Mayan calendar lol) and more worried about what is happening to our environment. About 5000 birds just...died and I think 10,000 fish (all the same species) washed up on shore...and nobody can say why. Australia, which is known for droughts FLOODED. I'm a little worried we waited too long to try and reverse our effects on the environment. But what can any of us do if things do go south? we just do our best to work things out. Until I see this so called end of the world, I'm gonna continue to RRR and do my best to erase my carbon footprint on this Earth

AmaViarra wrote:


I have question though, do you have a 'Sunflowers market' where you live? Because they are a GREAT store for vegetarians, especially for those who live in a family of non vegetarians. Not only are the vegetables, fruit and tofu affordable but so is organic meat and eggs. So you could do shopping there for yourself and your family for a lower amount then at a regular grocery store.

No, but there's a farmer's market not far from me called Raspberry Farms" that has all that stuff (omg, they're awesome, they even sell POCKY!) and I'm thinking you're right, I should may take note of how wide their selection is, might make a world of difference. Thank you for the suggestion! Feel kind of blond for not realizing it myself :/


And Avandrea- you're a deep thinker, I like that.

@Freya- No worries C: I just recently found out about natural/organic stores and how awesome they are. If you'd like, I have some vegetarian meals that even meat eaters love that I could share with you(though it may take me a week or so to actually get the recipe and the instructions typed up *laughs*)

Oh I also just remembered something about the whole 2012 thing that upset me and got me bothered with it and researching the theories behind it more. A few years ago my younger sister's middle school teacher told her class 'Not to come to school or study because it will be pointless when the world ends' That was frustrating when I heard about it. If you want to believe something, fine believe it. But why ruin students lives, or make them think 'oh there's no point in trying'? Gah, Some of these teachers really make me question why they are in that occupation.

Anyways, lately I have reached the mental mindset of 'What is going to happen, will happen' so may as well just live life to it's fullest and be happy C:

I just want to say this before i comment on the 2012 thing.
Avadrea wrote:
The thing is people WANT to believe in the end of the world. Most religious groups want there to be a definitive end to reality especially Christians (And I am not knocking Christians). The reason for this is that their whole theology is based off the promise of an after life and being saved at the end times. It gives them a sense of hope, they will survive the inevitable surrender of the flesh to death with an immortal soul. Its really a beautiful concept and solution to the reasonable fear of ceasing to be upon death.

Although that concept is built upon a lie that the Churches have taken and molded into a way to control their peoples in history (and even today) and draw in others as they have for many things (christmas, easter, valentines day, fathers/mothers day, etc none of those have any biblical standing and are adopted from pagan celebrations). The idea of an immortal soul is not a teaching of the bible but had been adopted a while after Plato contended that there was a difference between the body and the soul. Ecclesiastes 9:5 (and other scriptures) clearly states “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” Church teachings are mostly built on traditions and what the men in charge decide is the current truth, not bible teachings and principles.

I just wanted to get that out of my system.
As for the end of the world thing, it is doubtful that anything significant will happen aside from the usual on 12.12.2012 or new years eve on 2012. Time is a constant and will continue to go on. Just because somebody didn't put a calander beyond a certain date doesn't mean the world will end. Do you get excited and panicky when you reach the last page of your wall calender? lol
The universe isn't going to collapse, true science (not the theoretical nonsense that's accepted even though unproven) says that the universe is still expanding and galaxies are moving away, not toward, eachother.
The sun isn't going to implode/explode/go-supernova on us, its going to last for a long long time and when and if it finally does explode we will have the technology to probably move away to another planet, there are plenty out there the same size of earth.
The only thing we really need to worry about is produce consumption, in the next 3 yrs production of basic goods will need to up 70% in order to feed the rapidly growing population, which is why i agree with the idea of a reproduction cap (although that would bring in the issue of the catholic and other churches being against contraceptives and that that kind of pleasure is a sin which is a whole nother non-biblical thing in itself that i'm not gonna get into unless someone wants to know) but that idea in and of itself is flawed too since it would impose on the rights of people in North America, although many of these 'rights' are flawed as well.
And now my brain is tired to ta ta. And I hope I did not offend anyone, that was not my intent, just stating the simple facts. I apologize if anyone was offended.

I thought that was politely said, and if anyone is offended, it's on them. Everyone's entitled to believe something different, and as long as no one is imposing those beliefs on another, there shouldn't be a problem.

Strangely enough, I hadn't expected this thread to go this way, so I will say for old time's sake that people need to continue to be polite and understanding of each other and what others might believe.

Carry on.

I think its so odd that this 2012 thing has gained so much saport even in the media. WE called those people crazy for thinking that there was a space ship on the tail end of Hale Bopp.

Buying into these dooms day predictions can be very dangerous. That teacher telling kids not to bother is hurting their potential academic future not to mention their sense of security. The Millerites gave away their possession and didn't plant crops believing the world would end April 23, 1843. It must have been hard waking up April 24th to realize you had nothing left and no food to feed your family through the winter for some of them it WAS the end. And finally the people from Heaven's gate committed suicide so maybe they where right. Their world ended.

There have been many doomsday predictions many of them recent. Here are some interesting links to failed doomsdays.

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doomsdays 2
doomsdays 3

If any of these cults sound crazy remember people believe in them. Belief makes anything make sense.

I think it's silly that people believe the world will end in 2012 but I suppose it's possible (I think anything is possible) though if it does I think we'll either kill ourselves or aliens will come and take us over.

Either way, I don't believe in an end to all things. Like it says in science: 'energy can only be redirected or reformed never destroyed' - I'm sure thats not exactly right but you get the idea. Souls, consciences, they're just another form of energy as far as I'm concerned. My personal belief system deals heavily with the ideal of reincarnation and karma (the later being the form of the former).

Would aliens actually want Earth though? I mean we've made such a mess of it, with all the chemicals in our air and acid rain and such it would probably kill or at least make very sick any non-earthlings.

if the world ended like that imma enslave the aliens who enslaved the humans UBERHIRO XD.

But seriously, alot of the "end of the world" and "aliens" are all crocks. Theres a statistic number (One trillion to one of the world ending) (When heck freezes over when it ends on 2010) hope you all brought coats XD.